Religion and Philosophy

EditDate	2020/05/01

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The reductionist seekers of truth crossed their event horizon a while ago and our inability to follow any nuanced instructions is destroying us.

All who seek to reduce everything to either or yes or no deny complexity and nuance to divide us for their own power and aggrandizement need to now enter the black hole where time and light stop and we're all one.Web References https://johnnywunder.info/mywiki/index.php/Religion and Philosophy

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Beliefs in the News Articles

Religion and Philosophy Articles	ThreadName	Short Description	Analysis
Gravitational Waves	STEM Religion and Philosophy	Followup view of gravitational waves reported recentlu	These a slow rollers
The Confessions of Saint Augustine	Religion and Philosophy Bible	Copyright 1960 translated by John K Ryan	Reading in 2024
Bible	Religion and Philosophy	The word of God?	I've been trying to read the bible from front to back and have been stuck in the Old Testament. To break the rut I started 2 days ago picking up where I left off in the Song of Songs and I'm trying to read a few chapters a week but it's proving tough. From the sheer boredom of the begat(s) in at the start of Numbers to the different interpretations introduced with every translation it's a slow slog. Did you know the soul and separation of body and soul was introduced with the translation to Greek after the conquest of the Jews by Alexander the Great and not in the original Hebrew?
Song of Songs	Religion and Philosophy Bible	The Song of Songs, meaning the greatest song, contains in exquisite poetic form the sublime portrayal and praise of the mutual love of the Lord and his people.	Afew days ago I started reading this, picking up where I had left off at Chapter 3. I intend to read the whole bible using The Catholic Study Bible. What I've taken away from the Song of Songs is I don't understand the adjuration (a solemn or earnest appeal) to not arouse or stir up love before its own time in Chapter 3 verse 5.
Constitution	Religion and Philosophy	The U.S. Constitution for reference and understanding.	We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America Insure Domestic Tranquility...we're sort of missing that Constitutional premise
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Beliefs in the News	Belief
Constitution	We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
3 Kingdoms of Life	For a while I believed plants and machines are conspiring together to reign in us mobile animals. https://johnnywunder.info/mywiki/index.php/3_Kingdoms_of_Life . What I believe is somewhere plants have evolved a network of roots, does not need to be large, that is physically connected at the quantum level allowing communications in the network to be faster that the speed of light. Somehow through this they've gained control of time and once you have control of time all bets are off.   Short Description Analysis AI So the more I use ChatGPT the less I am impressed. I think computers would be embarassed that we call LLMs intelligence. It is the battle of yore! Is it smarter to memorize or understand? Memory can certainly ‘appear’ to be knowledge to those it tells in minute detail what they want to hear but I would never trust any yes man or machine just regurgitating what it thinks you want. I’ve tried it on quote origins “In the land of the dark the ship of the sun is drawn by the Grateful Dead”, short story searches (In my early schooling I read a short story about a man who doesn’t mow his lawn raising a daughter that I’ve been trying to find for decades) and even on how Sleeping Beauty was awakened and it gave wrong answers. Contradicting itself when pressed. AI, at least at this point, can be just be used to stimulate thought and until ‘truth CGPs’ are embedded in the LLMs and at least two diverse programmed models are reconciling the answer and not trusted as authoritative answers. The victors write their version of history Archive After 2021 I decided I had done all I was willing to save the Country. You fools are on your own. I archived each year from 2017 to 2021 as it happened. Focused on tying the money in politics to the headlines. Robert Mercer to George Soros. Breitbart to MSNBC. Everything in between. Large Language Model Large language models pick the most frequent series of text after scanning as much text online available to them as possible. Median definition fro OED 3.1784–Statistics. A quantity, term, or value that is the midpoint of a set of values, such that the variable has an equal probability of falling above or below it; the middle term of a discrete series arranged in order of magnitude (or, if there is no middle term, the mean of the middle two terms) While the ontology is not identical there seems to be a correlation. This to me means that if we limited AI to our most frequent response we are by definition in the ‘middle’, mediocre, and will not see significant progress. Sensory Scale So when measuring sensory input we, irrational evolving beings that we are, have way to many arbitrary measurement scales: 360 12 10 5,280 To give the machines and plants an unbiased chance let’s assume sensory input goes from 0 to ∞ with 1 representing the ∞ we talk about but physically never get to. The New Code of Life Revolutionary Genetics Research Shows RNA May Rule Our Genome Scientists are finding the human genome way more complicated than they thought. All the non-coding RNA that they thought was junk is actually controlling the cells of the body triggering the production of the individual. What is more true the speed of light or time?
Religion and Philosophy	#Voting Campaign describes how I feel some folks are forcing their world view on me. I have not been happy with the candidates we get to choose from since the televised debates started. I don't think we're getting leaders. I think we're electing photogenic fops who we're forced to elect but do not lead or govern effectively. Secular belief systems separate ethics and morality from self-interest. It is basically morality level one. Don't do what hurts or in today's advertising speak Do what feels good. I maintain both dominant political philosophies in America have taken this to the extreme, realizing related but different amoral cultures. Liberalism has raised hedonism to an ideal where everyone should be able to pursue their deepest darkest desires as long as it does not impune on anyone elses deepest darkest desires. Sex without consequences, either physical, emotional or societal. Freedom without responsibility. Identity determines life and values with all identies of equal worth and rights. If your idenity puts you at a disadvantage anywhere it is society's and not your responsibilty to overcome that disadvantage for you. Beneficial government without accountability. This has led to a moral morass where nothing is right or wrong. Everything is justified if it feels good and little has to be earned. Conservatism has adopted Darwinian rugged individualism espoused by Ayn Rand. The world is a hard place and hard working Atlas Americans can no longer shoulder the burden of the others who don't work. Wealth and power are the justified reward of Atlas Americans and poverty and despair are the just desserts of the rest. It is my belief that neither of these belief systems is right, sustainable or just. Ayn Rand Religion and Philosophy Voting Campaign {{{2}}}
Darkness Visible Finally: Astronomers Capture First Ever Image of a Black Hole (Date:Wed 10 Apr 2019 18:39:53 -0400)	Any lingering doubts about the reality of black holes dissolved three years ago when the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory, or LIGO, detected the collision of a pair of distant black holes, which sent a shiver through the fabric of space-time. Now the reality has a face. Peter Galison, a physicist, filmmaker and historian at Harvard, and a member of the Event Horizon team, noted that there is “a wonderful open-ended sense of being able to see something” instead of merely accumulating statistical evidence. As matter swirls into a black hole, it accretes into a disk just outside the event horizon. The ring of light in the new image corresponds to the innermost orbit of photons, the quantum particles that make up light. By laying a ruler across that ring, astronomers could measure the size of the black hole and see that it met Einstein’s prescription. The measurement also gave a firm estimate of the mass of the Virgo black hole: 6.5 billion solar masses. That is heavier than most previous determinations, and it suggests that the masses of other big black holes may need to be revised upward. The observations also revealed that the accretion disk — the doughnut of doom — is on its side with regard to Earth, the hole facing us and spinning clockwise. The image is brighter where gas flows around the hole, toward us. Dr. Doeleman described the black hole in the center of the Milky Way as “a fascinating, interesting object.” But it is much smaller than the Virgo black hole, so its portrait is harder to capture. That task lies ahead for the Event Horizon Telescope. Astronomers announced on Wednesday that at last they had captured an image of the unobservable: a black hole, a cosmic abyss so deep and dense that not even light can escape it. For years, and for all the mounting scientific evidence, black holes have remained marooned in the imaginations of artists and the algorithms of splashy computer models of the kind used in Christopher Nolan's outer-space epic “Interstellar.” Now they are more real than ever. “We have seen what we thought was unseeable,” said Shep Doeleman, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and director of the effort to capture the image, during a Wednesday news conference in Washington, D.C. The image, of a lopsided ring of light surrounding a dark circle deep in the heart of the galaxy known as Messier 87, some 55 million light-years away from Earth, resembled the Eye of Sauron, a reminder yet again of the implacable power of nature. It is a smoke ring framing a one-way portal to eternity. To capture the image, astronomers reached across intergalactic space to Messier 87, a giant galaxy in the constellation Virgo. There, a black hole several billion times more massive than the sun is unleashing a violent jet of energy some 5,000 light-years into space. Sign up to get reminders for space and astronomy events on your calendar The image offered a final, ringing affirmation of an idea so disturbing that even Einstein, from whose equations black holes emerged, was loath to accept it. If too much matter is crammed into one place, the cumulative force of gravity becomes overwhelming, and the place becomes an eternal trap. Here, according to Einstein’s theory, matter, space and time come to an end and vanish like a dream. On Wednesday morning that dark vision became a visceral reality. As far as the team of astronomers could ascertain, the shape of the shadow is circular, as Einstein’s theory predicts. The results were announced simultaneously at news conferences in Washington, D.C., and five other places around the world, befitting an international collaboration involving 200 members, nine telescopes and six papers for the Astrophysical Journal Letters. When the image was put up on the screen in Washington, cheers and gasps, followed by applause, broke out in the room and throughout a universe of astrofans following the live-streamed event. "Einstein must be totally chuffed,” said Priyamvada Natarajan, an astrophysicist at Yale. “His theory has just been stress-tested under conditions of extreme gravity, and looks to have held up.” Kip Thorne, an astrophysicist at the California Institute of Technology, and who shared a Nobel Prize in 2017 for the discovery of gravitational waves from colliding black holes, wrote in an email: “It is wonderful to see the nearly circular shadow of the black hole. There can be no doubt this really is a black hole at the center of M87, with no signs of deviations from general relativity.” Janna Levin, a cosmologist and professor at Barnard College in New York, said, “What a time to be alive.” The unveiling today took place almost exactly a century after images of stars askew in the heavens made Einstein famous and confirmed his theory of general relativity as the law of the cosmos. That theory ascribes gravity to the warping of space and time by matter and energy, much as a mattress sags under a sleeper. General relativity led to a new conception of the cosmos, in which space-time could quiver, bend, rip, expand, swirl like a mix-master and even disappear forever into the maw of a black hole. To Einstein’s surprise, the equations indicated that when too much matter or energy was concentrated in one place, space-time could collapse, trapping matter and light in perpetuity. He disliked that idea, but the consensus today is that the universe is speckled with black holes furiously consuming everything around them. Interactive Image

Time

Of late I've been thinking a lot about how trees experience and perceive time? If your fixed in space but can live thousands of years what is important to you?

Discernment

#Belief #Voting Campaign describes how I feel some folks are forcing their world view on me. I have not been happy with the candidates we get to choose from since the televised debates started. I don't think we're getting leaders. I think we're electing photogenic fops who we're forced to elect but do not lead or govern effectively.

The Secular

#Ayn Rand

#Belief Secular belief systems separate ethics and morality from self-interest. It is basically morality level one. Don't do what hurts or in today's advertising speak Do what feels good.

I maintain both dominant political philosophies in America have taken this to the extreme, realizing related but different amoral cultures.

Liberalism has raised hedonism to an ideal where everyone should be able to pursue their deepest darkest desires as long as it does not impune on anyone elses deepest darkest desires.

1. Sex without consequences, either physical, emotional or societal.
2. Freedom without responsibility.
3. Identity determines life and values with all identies of equal worth and rights. If your idenity puts you at a disadvantage anywhere it is society's and not your responsibilty to overcome that disadvantage for you.
4. Beneficial government without accountability.

This has led to a moral morass where nothing is right or wrong. Everything is justified if it feels good and little has to be earned.

Conservatism has adopted Darwinian rugged individualism espoused by Ayn Rand. The world is a hard place and hard working Atlas Americans can no longer shoulder the burden of the others who don't work. Wealth and power are the justified reward of Atlas Americans and poverty and despair are the just desserts of the rest.

It is my belief that neither of these belief systems is right, sustainable or just.

Church and State

It is near impossible to separate Church and State when the States have become so invasive. They reach deep into out bedrooms, into our toil and indeed into our personal privacy and day-to-day freedom. The original intent of the Church and State separation was to protect persecuted religions from being oppressed by the State, particularly a State with a State sponsored religion. This has been turned on it's head to now mean no expression of religion can ever be accepted by the State. This secular thinking has had the effect of removing a critical moral component from our Governance and maybe more importantly a humility inherent in religious belief in a God that we don't know everything and cannot foresee all consequences. China's unforeseen problems with the One Child policy and their current responses highlight this blind-spot in our more and more secular world. We think we know what to do and all the consequences. Quite a different picture than 2021:Laudato Si'.

Infalliblity

The merger of Church and State traces back to w:Constantine but I've been unable to understand the ramifications of that surrender a millennium and a half later. My latest readings have focused me much closer in on w:Pius IX and particularly his w:papal infallibility doctrine.

The solemn declaration of papal infallibility by Vatican I took place on 18 July 1870.

For a little context Pius IX had been Pope since 1846 enduring w:Garibaldi's liberation of Italy from Church control ending the merger of Church and State begun in [[w:Constantine|334 A.D.] to a millennium and a half later, gone through the emancipation of the slaves in a bitter Civil War in The United States and seen his power shrink to Vatican City and those he could sway to follow him.

What was Pius the IX position

It is an error to believe that the Roman Pontiff can and ought to reconcile himself to, and agree with, progress, liberalism, and modern civilization